His dark materials

I asked some questions about the Adam and Eve, the forbidden fruit, the serpent role and the expulsion of them from Eden because of their first sin. I think this is the most critical and symbolic story of all Semitic religions. I will try to re-state some important and old questions about this story, but I don’t try to answer them all!
What was the tree of knowledge of good and evil? Was there anything that God did not would like to share with his own creatures? Why the serpent played the role of wise devil to inform the first couple of the importance of such tree and the great lie? Why the snake not any other animal? Why he chose Eve to tell the truth not Adam? What was the specific characteristic of her which made her a good listener to the serpent? etc!
I personally prefer a psychoanalytic interpretation of the story. The sexual symbols (like the snake, apple, and the fate of Eve which was bearing a child with pain) are very dominant. But I am not a fond of pure Freudian (in my sense mechanical) interpretation of what happened to our ancestors. I am mainly concerned about that tree and the role of Eve in bringing its fruit to our life throughout the history.
The original sin of Eve and Adam gradually transformed from a crime of mankind and a load on our shoulders to be carried during our lives in Judaic believes, to a heroine act of Eve in capturing the first fruit of eternal knowledge to our bloods as her offspring. This tree remaind a symbolic sign of the great workof Eve and Adam who did like Prometheus in stealing the fire from the Olympus…
Many people who are involved in scientific work are familiar with the logo of Elsevier…this is the so called tree of knowledge!
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Read this! this is a part of the Testimony of truth, a book of the collection of Gnostic gospels found in Nag Hammadi library belonging to the second century AD. The first part is an exact copy of what happened in Bible Genesis, but pay attention to the second part….:
«…But God came at the time of evening, walking in the midst of Paradise. When Adam saw him, he hid himself. And he said, «Adam, where are you?» He answered (and) said, «I have come under the fig tree.» And at that very moment, God knew that he had eaten from the tree of which he had commanded him, «Do not eat of it.» And he said to him, «Who is it who has instructed you?» And Adam answered, «The woman whom you have given me.» And the woman said, «It is the serpent who instructed me.» And he (God) cursed the serpent, and called him «devil.» And he said,
«Behold, Adam has become like one of us, knowing evil and good.» Then he said, «Let us cast him out of paradise, lest he take from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever.

«But what sort is this God? First he maliciously refused Adam from eating of the tree of knowledge, and, secondly, he said «Adam, where are you?» God does not have foreknowledge? Would he not know from the beginning? And afterwards, he said, «Let us cast him out of this place, lest he eat of the tree of life and live forever.» Surely, he has shown himself to be a malicious grudger! And what kind of God is this? For great is the blindness of those who read, and they did not know him.
And he said, «I am the jealous God; I will bring the sins of the fathers upon the children until three (and) four generations.» And he said, «I will make their heart thick, and I will cause their mind to become blind, that they might not know nor comprehend the things that are said.» But these
things he has said to those who believe in him and serve him!
And in one place, Moses writes, «He made the devil a serpent those whom he has in his generation.» Also, in the book which is called «Exodus,» it is written thus: «He contended against the magicians, when the place was full of serpents according to their wickedness; and the rod which was in the hand of Moses became a serpent, (and) it swallowed the serpents of the magicians.»….

It is what happened in Bible, but from another point of view. A more humanistic view which in my sense is the original predisposing factor emerging of Christianity. It seems that my questions are not new!

I will talk about this point of view further…

3 پاسخ to “His dark materials”

  1. نیشگون Says:

    راستی این هم جالبه: http://home.planet.nl/~taylorpj/elzevir.htm

  2. نیشگون Says:

    جواب سروش رو تازه امروز دیدم … و اون تیکهٔ «مارزبان» من رو یاد اسلیترین انداخت. و serpent همراه لرد سیاه … هنوز نمی‌تونم رابطه‌ها رو خوب تحلیل کنم اما … اما احساس می‌کنم که کم کم دارم به اسطوره‌شناسی علاقه‌مند می‌شم!

  3. سروش Says:

    جالبه! و البته هول انگیزه! یادمه که وقتی «نیروی اهریمنی اش» رو خوندم هم دچار این احساس شدم که ذهن خیل پرداز من دوست نداره خدایی رو واسه داستان هاش انتخاب کنه که خودش منشا و مبدا انواع مارا و sepent هاست! این احساس واسه این برام جالبه که بهم یاداوری می کنه که آدم در عین حال که نمی خواد زیر دست و مورد توطئه این خدا باشه (یعنی ترجیح می ده یه خدای مهربون و راستگو ! داشته باشه) ، بدش نمی آد که اگه یه روزی تونست یا بهش پیشنهاد خدایی شد، خودش خدای وحشتناک و توطئه گر و مارزبانی بشه! به نظرم اومد خیلی وقتا اصولا خلق یه موجود اهریمنی تو داستانا یه مقداریش برمی گرده به تمایل درونی نویسنده به اینکه اهریمن مقتدری باشه، حتی اگه آخر داستانو با پیروزی خیر تموم کنه.

    این احساس البته هیچ ربطی به تمایلی که به قوی تر بودن و پیروزشدن قهرمان مثبت داستان نداره! یه نظام یا یه قالب فکریه که به خاطر فرهنگ وتاریخ و اسطوره ها و داستان ها و عوامل دیگه دست به دست هم دادن و یه ذهن واحد و درست کردن.

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